<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Post Bilski Prosecution Strategy – Can It Really Be This Simple?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/</link>
	<description>A practical patent prosecution blog published by Michael Kondoudis</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:38:57 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aristo</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4822</link>
		<dc:creator>Aristo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4822</guid>
		<description>To answer the question presented by this post, personally, I do not believe that satisfying Bilski is as simple as adding an output from a computer alone.  While I strongly believe that the Supreme Court is going to get rid of the machine-or-transformation test as the only test for determining patent-eligible subject matter, in the interim, we must deal with the application thereof.  Accordingly, this article raises an interesting and pertinent question.

It appears that the Board, like the Examining corps in general, has struggled mightily in attempting to understand what to do in light of the Bilski decision.  In many cases, including the present decision, the Board appears to apply pieces of the Bilski test without applying the entirety thereof.  Given the large number of judges on the Board and the limited time they have to review each case, this is perhaps not surprising.  I am in full agreement with Mr. Sayre about the computer performing insignificant post-solution activity in this case with respect to the final claim limitation, and as such, I believe that while the outcome was correct, the Board&#039;s rationale is flawed.

Perhaps a stronger argument that the Board could have made in support of its decision is that since the method is a &quot;computer implemented method&quot;, and all of the claimed features are performed by a computer, the claim is explicitly tied to a particular machine or apparatus, as Les noted.  Of course, this leads to the scarier issue that was left for later determination in Bilski of whether a general purpose computer qualifies as a &quot;particular&quot; machine or apparatus.  If the Federal Circuit were to make such an unwise determination, software claims would essentially be dead.

Returning to the wild variability in applications of Bilski by staff at the USPTO, and the uncertainty as to how a general purpose computer may be treated by the Federal Circuit, a stronger strategy than arguing a tie to a particular machine alone may be to argue both prongs of the Bilski test, including an argument with respect to a transformation.  In the case of software, memory (registers, cache, RAM, etc.) must naturally undergo physical transformations when a processor runs since the physical semiconductor material changes state.  While the Federal Circuit discussed transformations of data in Bilski, the physical transformations to matter that occur when running software on a machine were not specifically addressed.  Accordingly, bolstering 101 arguments with such language may be beneficial and in my practice has worked in a handful of cases on its own when clients would not agree to amend method claims to include structure.

In summary, I do not believe that relying on this Board decision would be prudent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer the question presented by this post, personally, I do not believe that satisfying Bilski is as simple as adding an output from a computer alone.  While I strongly believe that the Supreme Court is going to get rid of the machine-or-transformation test as the only test for determining patent-eligible subject matter, in the interim, we must deal with the application thereof.  Accordingly, this article raises an interesting and pertinent question.</p>
<p>It appears that the Board, like the Examining corps in general, has struggled mightily in attempting to understand what to do in light of the Bilski decision.  In many cases, including the present decision, the Board appears to apply pieces of the Bilski test without applying the entirety thereof.  Given the large number of judges on the Board and the limited time they have to review each case, this is perhaps not surprising.  I am in full agreement with Mr. Sayre about the computer performing insignificant post-solution activity in this case with respect to the final claim limitation, and as such, I believe that while the outcome was correct, the Board&#8217;s rationale is flawed.</p>
<p>Perhaps a stronger argument that the Board could have made in support of its decision is that since the method is a &#8220;computer implemented method&#8221;, and all of the claimed features are performed by a computer, the claim is explicitly tied to a particular machine or apparatus, as Les noted.  Of course, this leads to the scarier issue that was left for later determination in Bilski of whether a general purpose computer qualifies as a &#8220;particular&#8221; machine or apparatus.  If the Federal Circuit were to make such an unwise determination, software claims would essentially be dead.</p>
<p>Returning to the wild variability in applications of Bilski by staff at the USPTO, and the uncertainty as to how a general purpose computer may be treated by the Federal Circuit, a stronger strategy than arguing a tie to a particular machine alone may be to argue both prongs of the Bilski test, including an argument with respect to a transformation.  In the case of software, memory (registers, cache, RAM, etc.) must naturally undergo physical transformations when a processor runs since the physical semiconductor material changes state.  While the Federal Circuit discussed transformations of data in Bilski, the physical transformations to matter that occur when running software on a machine were not specifically addressed.  Accordingly, bolstering 101 arguments with such language may be beneficial and in my practice has worked in a handful of cases on its own when clients would not agree to amend method claims to include structure.</p>
<p>In summary, I do not believe that relying on this Board decision would be prudent.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4821</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4821</guid>
		<description>Seems ok, but there&#039;s no antecedent basis for &quot;the computer system.&quot; Les&#039; comment re inherency may hold water as a last ditch effort by a litigator, but it is poor drafting that leads to ambiguity later on during enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems ok, but there&#8217;s no antecedent basis for &#8220;the computer system.&#8221; Les&#8217; comment re inherency may hold water as a last ditch effort by a litigator, but it is poor drafting that leads to ambiguity later on during enforcement.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4819</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4819</guid>
		<description>Regarding the 112 issue:  The computer is inherent.  It is a computer implemented method.  Therefore, there is a computer.

There is also a transformation.  exposed performance gaps are transformed from an unaddressed state to an addressed stated via the outputted solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the 112 issue:  The computer is inherent.  It is a computer implemented method.  Therefore, there is a computer.</p>
<p>There is also a transformation.  exposed performance gaps are transformed from an unaddressed state to an addressed stated via the outputted solution.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dr. Sinai Yarus</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4818</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Sinai Yarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4818</guid>
		<description>Thanks for pointing out this great decision.

I generally try to satisfy both prongs of the Bilski test by describing the method in terms of modules within a machine.

A generic Example:
A method to satisfy the Bilski machine or transformation test, the method comprising:
A) Receiving a data input at a data reception module;
B) Transferring the data to a processing module; 
C) Processing the data to produce transformed data.

Each of the three steps is linked to the machine.

C explicitly states there is a transformation.

Most Examiners are looking at 101 as an &quot;easy way out&quot;. Writing a good 101 rejection for a claim in this style is generally too much work and they don&#039;t bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing out this great decision.</p>
<p>I generally try to satisfy both prongs of the Bilski test by describing the method in terms of modules within a machine.</p>
<p>A generic Example:<br />
A method to satisfy the Bilski machine or transformation test, the method comprising:<br />
A) Receiving a data input at a data reception module;<br />
B) Transferring the data to a processing module;<br />
C) Processing the data to produce transformed data.</p>
<p>Each of the three steps is linked to the machine.</p>
<p>C explicitly states there is a transformation.</p>
<p>Most Examiners are looking at 101 as an &#8220;easy way out&#8221;. Writing a good 101 rejection for a claim in this style is generally too much work and they don&#8217;t bother.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4817</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4817</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Robert, thank you for commenting on &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;THE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt; problem with the Board&#039;s decision.  Still, this argument worked with the Board.  Would an Examiner on remand second guess the Board?&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, thank you for commenting on <em><u><strong>THE</strong></u></em> problem with the Board&#8217;s decision.  Still, this argument worked with the Board.  Would an Examiner on remand second guess the Board?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joe Sixpack</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4816</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sixpack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4816</guid>
		<description>As to the question of successful strategies... I found the following two suggestions helpful:

1) This language overcame a Bilski rejection at the appeals board.
Appeal 2009-1485
A computer-readable medium having stored thereon instructions that, when executed, direct a printer to...

2) This language was offered by an examiner in 11/423,538: 

Suggested change: “A computer readable storage medium storing instructions which, when executed on a programmed processor...”


In practice I think you’re really limited by the type of specification you’ve inherited or created.  I’ve seen a few Bilski rejections in software applications I’ve inherited.  I’ve been able to overcome them using language similar to that found above.  These rejections, however, were first office actions, not appeals.  Bottom line is that you need some support in the specification to overcome these rejections.  I’m giving myself more support now that Bilski was grated certiorari.   

I’ve called a couple examiners on Bilski rejections and had some interesting conversations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the question of successful strategies&#8230; I found the following two suggestions helpful:</p>
<p>1) This language overcame a Bilski rejection at the appeals board.<br />
Appeal 2009-1485<br />
A computer-readable medium having stored thereon instructions that, when executed, direct a printer to&#8230;</p>
<p>2) This language was offered by an examiner in 11/423,538: </p>
<p>Suggested change: “A computer readable storage medium storing instructions which, when executed on a programmed processor&#8230;”</p>
<p>In practice I think you’re really limited by the type of specification you’ve inherited or created.  I’ve seen a few Bilski rejections in software applications I’ve inherited.  I’ve been able to overcome them using language similar to that found above.  These rejections, however, were first office actions, not appeals.  Bottom line is that you need some support in the specification to overcome these rejections.  I’m giving myself more support now that Bilski was grated certiorari.   </p>
<p>I’ve called a couple examiners on Bilski rejections and had some interesting conversations.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4815</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joe, I too question whether this strategy &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;should&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; work.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nonetheless, the USPTO &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; go along with this, since the Board reversed the Examiner.  That alone begs the question - &quot;just how little is enough to justify making this type of argument?&quot;  After all, it was successful in a reported case.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I too question whether this strategy <strong><em>should</em></strong> work.  </p>
<p>Nonetheless, the USPTO <em><strong>did</strong></em> go along with this, since the Board reversed the Examiner.  That alone begs the question &#8211; &#8220;just how little is enough to justify making this type of argument?&#8221;  After all, it was successful in a reported case.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: joe o'malley</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>joe o'malley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4814</guid>
		<description>I agree with Robert J. Sayre.  The PTO isn&#039;t going to go along with that.  I just pick one of the  core steps and say it is done on a computer or using a processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Robert J. Sayre.  The PTO isn&#8217;t going to go along with that.  I just pick one of the  core steps and say it is done on a computer or using a processor.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Robert J. Sayre</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4813</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert J. Sayre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4813</guid>
		<description>That sounds like &quot;insignificant post-solution activity,&quot; which the CAFC reiterated in Bilski is not enough--from the Bilski decision:

&quot;The Diehr Court also reaffirmed a second corollary to the machine-or-transformation test by stating that &#039;insignificant postsolution activity will not transform an unpatentable principle into a patentable process.&#039; Id. at 191-92; see also Flook, 437 U.S. at 590 (&#039;The notion that post-solution activity, no matter how conventional or obvious in itself, can transform an unpatentable principle into a patentable process exalts form over substance.&#039;). . . .  Therefore, even if a claim recites a specific machine or a particular transformation of a specific article, the recited machine or transformation must not constitute mere &#039;insignificant postsolution activity.&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like &#8220;insignificant post-solution activity,&#8221; which the CAFC reiterated in Bilski is not enough&#8211;from the Bilski decision:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Diehr Court also reaffirmed a second corollary to the machine-or-transformation test by stating that &#8216;insignificant postsolution activity will not transform an unpatentable principle into a patentable process.&#8217; Id. at 191-92; see also Flook, 437 U.S. at 590 (&#8216;The notion that post-solution activity, no matter how conventional or obvious in itself, can transform an unpatentable principle into a patentable process exalts form over substance.&#8217;). . . .  Therefore, even if a claim recites a specific machine or a particular transformation of a specific article, the recited machine or transformation must not constitute mere &#8216;insignificant postsolution activity.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Schafer</title>
		<link>http://patentablydefined.com/2009/07/27/post-bilski-prosecution-strategy-%e2%80%93-can-it-really-be-this-simple/comment-page-1/#comment-4812</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Schafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://patentablydefined.com/?p=84#comment-4812</guid>
		<description>I find the Board&#039;s rationale particular interesting given the lack of antecedent basis for &quot;the computer system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Board&#8217;s rationale particular interesting given the lack of antecedent basis for &#8220;the computer system.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

